Elon Musk Claims His Grok 4 Beat GPT-5 Before It Even Launched – But Reddit Users Reveal The Real Story

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The artificial intelligence world is buzzing with drama after OpenAI launched its highly anticipated GPT-5 model, only to have Elon Musk fire back with bold claims that his Grok 4 was already smarter “two weeks ago.” What started as a tech launch has turned into an all-out AI rivalry that’s got everyone picking sides.

The GPT-5 Launch That Started It All

On August 7, 2025, OpenAI officially launched GPT-5, calling it their “smartest, fastest, most useful” model yet. CEO Sam Altman wasn’t holding back, describing it as “like having a team of PhD-level experts in your pocket”. The model rolled out to all 700 million ChatGPT users, including free users getting access for the first time.

What makes GPT-5 special? According to OpenAI, it’s a major leap forward in reasoning, coding, math, and visual tasks. The company claims it has fewer “hallucinations” (when AI makes stuff up) and is designed to be more honest about what it doesn’t know. Plus, it comes in three sizes for developers – GPT-5, GPT-5-mini, and GPT-5-nano – so you can pick between maximum power or better speed and cost.

Musk Strikes Back With Bold Claims

But Elon Musk wasn’t about to let OpenAI have its moment in the sun. Just hours after the GPT-5 launch, the Tesla CEO took to X (his own social platform) with a bombshell claim.

“Bottom line though: Grok 4 Heavy was smarter 2 weeks ago than GPT5 is now and G4H is already a lot better,” Musk posted, adding his signature “Let that sink in”.

Musk didn’t stop there. He teased that Grok 5 would be “crushingly good” and launch by the end of 2025. He even shared user feedback claiming Grok 4 was outperforming GPT-5 in head-to-head tests.

The xAI team joined the attack, with co-founder Tony Wu posting: “Very proud of us @xai after seeing the GPT5 release. With a much smaller team, we are ahead in many ways. Grok4 is the world’s first unified model, and crushing GPT5 in benchmarks like ARC-AGI

Who Really Leads?

When we dig into the actual performance data, the picture gets more complicated. Here’s what the benchmarks actually show:

Where Grok 4 Actually Wins:

  • ARC-AGI-2 reasoning test: Grok 4 scored 16% vs GPT-5’s 9.9%
  • ARC-AGI-1 test: Grok 4 got 68% vs GPT-5’s 65.7%
  • Real-time information from X/Twitter (GPT-5 doesn’t have this)

Where GPT-5 Takes the Lead:

  • Most major coding benchmarks
  • Complex reasoning tasks (GPQA)
  • Enterprise reliability and safety
  • Cost-effectiveness (Grok 4’s wins often cost several times more to achieve)

GPT-5 vs Grok 4 Model Comparison

FeatureGPT-5Grok 4
Launch DateAugust 2025July 2025
CreatorOpenAI/MicrosoftxAI/Elon Musk
Real-time DataNoYes (via X/Twitter)
PersonalityProfessional, reliableWitty, rebellious, sometimes controversial
SafetyRigorous testing, detailed reportsLimited transparency, some offensive outputs
CostMultiple tiers, more accessible$300/month for top tier
Coding PerformanceLeading in most benchmarksGood but trails GPT-5
ReasoningStrong across boardWins some specific tests
Enterprise UseWidely adoptedNiche appeal
SpeedSometimes slower (overanalyzes)Variable
Context LengthGoodLimited in some modes
MultimodalAdvanced text+imageGood but less refined
IntegrationMicrosoft Office, GitHub, AzureX platform mainly
TransparencyDetailed system reportsMinimal public info
HallucinationsReduced significantlyStill an issue
ControversyMinimalFaced backlash for outputs
Global AccessBroad availabilityRegional restrictions

What Reddit Users Think

A heated discussion on Reddit’s r/LocalLLaMA community revealed what actual users experience daily. The verdict? GPT-5 wins on quality, but users aren’t happy about everything.

The Good News for GPT-5:

  • Users ranked it #1 for reasoning, coding, and reliability
  • Better for complex, professional tasks
  • More honest about its limitations

The Bad News:

  • Significantly slower response times
  • Tends to “overthink” simple prompts
  • Access issues even for paying customers

Grok 4’s Reality Check:

  • Not seen as a real GPT-5 competitor for technical work
  • Good for real-time social media insights
  • More personality but less substance

Speed Champions:

  • Google’s Gemini 2.5 Pro: Fast but limited context
  • DeepSeek R1: Quick responses but struggles with long conversations

One Reddit user summed it up: “GPT-5 is the go-to for tough tasks where accuracy matters. Grok-4 appeals if you want real-time social insights and personality, but it’s not the technical leader.”

The Real Story Behind the Claims

While Musk’s claims grab headlines, independent evidence tells a different story:

What’s Missing from Musk’s Claims:

  • No comprehensive public benchmarks support “overall superiority”
  • xAI hasn’t released detailed performance reports
  • Cost-per-task often makes Grok 4 less practical

What GPT-5 Actually Delivers:

  • Consistent leadership in mainstream benchmarks
  • Better enterprise adoption
  • More transparent safety testing

The Grok 4 Advantage That’s Real:

  • Unique real-time X integration
  • More conversational, personality-driven experience
  • Sometimes faster for social media-related tasks

The Real Winner Might Surprise You

Here’s the twist nobody’s talking about: This AI war might be exactly what users need, even if the claims don’t match reality.

Why Musk’s Exaggerated Claims Actually Help Everyone:

  1. Forces Innovation Speed: OpenAI can’t rest on its laurels when Musk is breathing down their necks
  2. Drives Down Costs: Competition means better pricing for consumers
  3. Creates Specialized Solutions: Instead of one-size-fits-all, we’re getting models for different needs

The Uncomfortable Truth About “AI Supremacy”:
Most people don’t need the “world’s smartest AI.” They need:

  • Fast responses for daily tasks (Gemini 2.5 wins here)
  • Affordable access (cheaper models often work fine)
  • Reliable information (GPT-5’s strength)
  • Real-time updates (Grok 4’s unique edge)

What This Really Reveals:
The obsession with “which AI is smartest” misses the point. It’s like arguing whether a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is faster when most people just need reliable transportation. GPT-5 might be the “better” model overall, but Grok 4’s real-time features solve problems GPT-5 can’t touch.

The Future Nobody’s Predicting:
Within six months, we’ll probably have Grok 5, GPT-5.5, and Google’s next model. This “war” isn’t about who wins today—it’s about pushing the entire industry forward faster than ever before.

Bottom Line: Musk’s claims might be inflated, but his competition with OpenAI is giving us better AI tools, faster innovation, and more choices. Sometimes the best outcome isn’t having one clear winner—it’s having multiple strong competitors pushing each other to be better.

The real question isn’t “Who’s winning?” It’s “How fast can they all improve?” And at this pace, we’re all winning.

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